First day in Ireland.
Went to Ennis where we mostly walked around looking for the records office, got wrong directions, finally found it. Spent time with Peter there the records person who helped us with starting our search for John Maloney (I attempted this last time we were in Ireland). Peter was very helpful.
We now believe John Maloney may have left Ireland in 1839 which was before the potato famine. Our search will probably now go back to Canada where we will see if we can find where he and his brothers entered Canada.
We also learned that Catholics had to pay tithes to the Church of Ireland (protestant) even though they were Catholics. That's fair right?
Seems that the spelling of Maloney was most likely Molony at the time and probably lived in the parish of Drumcliff, where we found some James Molonys, John Molonys, and Michael Molonys. We think that John Maloney's father was probably Michael Maloney.
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Wednesday, May 4, 2016
Sunday, September 8, 2013
Maloney Mountain - dedicated to the Maloneys then and now
Here are Maureen's videos she took of our trip to Mt. St. Patrick and up Maloney Mountain to our family's homestead.
This is at the base of the mountain where the Church is and the cemetery where my relatives are buried.
This is the trip up the mountain and approaching the house
This is at the base of the mountain where the Church is and the cemetery where my relatives are buried.
This is the trip up the mountain and approaching the house
The fences on Maloney Mountain
Picnic on the Mountain
Walk to the back of the property and saying goodbye to Maloney Mountain
Maureen has done a great job on these videos
Dedicated to all our Maloney Ancestors
Thursday, September 5, 2013
Our trip to Ireland - the circle is almost closed
This week I travelled to Mt. St. Patrick where my Canadian roots began after John Maloney's immigration from Ireland. It is west of Renfrew Ontario.
A bit of history on the homestead from the census records I have.
From the 1851/1852 Canadian census, the family was living in a one storey shanty house and born in "Earland" (I think that was supposed to be Ireland but it seems the census takers spelled phonetically, as you will see from the spellings of our name). My gg-grandfather's name was spelled "Mulloney" and his wife's name was Debby "Murarty" (her name was Moriarty).
In the 1861 census, the family was now living in a one storey log house.
In the 1871and 1881 census my gg-grandfather's name was spelled "Moloney". In 1871 Daniel Moriarty appears on the scene, must be Debora's father from Ireland.
Then in the 1891 census, we see "Maloney" spelled as we spell it now. Son Michael Maloney and wife Johanna Kiely and their two children, now lived in the house along with Debora and John and two of their children. It notes that my gg-grandmother could not read or write.
The 1901 census states that both John and Debora spoke "Irish" (not sure why Irish is in quotes). They both still live in the home along with Michael and Johanna and their four children.
Not sure how everyone fit into a one storey log cabin. For instance in the 1861 census I count 12 people living in the house.
The house that stands on the property now was built in 1922, the same year my father was born.
John and Debora had 12 children, Patrick died at one, and Mary before her first birthday, maybe at birth.
My great great grandfather is buried in the parish cemetery along with other Maloneys, including my own brother John Maloney.
I went with my two sisters, one brother, and three spouses. We drove the four miles from Mt. St. Patrick where the cemetery is, up Maloney Mountain to the farm that housed five generations of Maloneys.
There was no running water when my father was growing up either. They used an outhouse as well.
Cows in the pasture just like Ireland. House to the left, another barn to the right. Pat McDonald grazes his cows here.
Michael Maloney and Johanna Kiely, my great grandfather and great grand mother, also buried in the cemetery.
Kitchen
And lo and behold I discovered STONE FENCES back on the property. OH. MY. GOODNESS. I have never seen stone fences in Canada, like those we saw in Ireland. But here they are. They appear to have cedar placed on top of the fences. I imagine that these fences were built when my ancestors first built the homestead, and then started using cedar when they discovered how plentiful it was.
Me sitting on one of these combo stone/cedar fences.
We need some colour
Fred, Maureen and Mike with another barn behind them
Another stone/cedar combo fence
These pictures were taken as we were leaving and were down at the bottom of Maloney Mountain Rd.
I still have not been able to trace back my roots to Ireland. But I did find a distant cousin, Michael Maloney (descendant of Patrick Maloney: my gg-grandfather John Maloney's brother). He has been in touch with the Clare Heritage Centre, to do some research with the objective of finding the parents of John, Patrick and Michael.
So maybe we will eventually figure out the rest of our story, and who my ggg-grandparents were. God willing.
A bit of history on the homestead from the census records I have.
From the 1851/1852 Canadian census, the family was living in a one storey shanty house and born in "Earland" (I think that was supposed to be Ireland but it seems the census takers spelled phonetically, as you will see from the spellings of our name). My gg-grandfather's name was spelled "Mulloney" and his wife's name was Debby "Murarty" (her name was Moriarty).
In the 1861 census, the family was now living in a one storey log house.
In the 1871and 1881 census my gg-grandfather's name was spelled "Moloney". In 1871 Daniel Moriarty appears on the scene, must be Debora's father from Ireland.
Then in the 1891 census, we see "Maloney" spelled as we spell it now. Son Michael Maloney and wife Johanna Kiely and their two children, now lived in the house along with Debora and John and two of their children. It notes that my gg-grandmother could not read or write.
The 1901 census states that both John and Debora spoke "Irish" (not sure why Irish is in quotes). They both still live in the home along with Michael and Johanna and their four children.
Not sure how everyone fit into a one storey log cabin. For instance in the 1861 census I count 12 people living in the house.
The house that stands on the property now was built in 1922, the same year my father was born.
John and Debora had 12 children, Patrick died at one, and Mary before her first birthday, maybe at birth.
My great great grandfather is buried in the parish cemetery along with other Maloneys, including my own brother John Maloney.
I went with my two sisters, one brother, and three spouses. We drove the four miles from Mt. St. Patrick where the cemetery is, up Maloney Mountain to the farm that housed five generations of Maloneys.
Jimmy, moi, Paula, Maureen at cemetery at the base of the mountain, along with a few dead Maloneys
The house and land is still owned by my two cousins, and is still used as a hunting camp. In the picture below, you can see some of the barns. Notice the barn to the right of the house. That is the cook house. This was used in the summer. They would literally move the wood stove in the kitchen out to the cookhouse in the summer, since it would heat the house up too much. Then they would move it back into the house for the winter. The stove was the only heat source in the house. Below the picture is a hole in the kitchen above the stove. This is how the heat made its way up into the second floor. There may have been an actual pipe up to the second floor, but as a child going up to the farm, I don't remember ever seeing one. There are no heaters on the second floor. And remember this is Canada where winters can be as cold as -35 Celsius and probably colder on the mountain. My father used to tell me that when they woke up in the morning during the winter, the water in the water basin in the room would be frozen.
There was no running water when my father was growing up either. They used an outhouse as well.
The house on our approach down the laneway
Hole above the stove in the kitchen, I am standing upstairs.
Canadian fences are mostly made of cedar
From behind the house, we are back quite a piece
One of the barns, probably one of the original buildings
Cows in the pasture just like Ireland. House to the left, another barn to the right. Pat McDonald grazes his cows here.
Michael Maloney and Johanna Kiely, my great grandfather and great grand mother, also buried in the cemetery.
My grandfather, John Maloney (I think)
Dining room and living room
And lo and behold I discovered STONE FENCES back on the property. OH. MY. GOODNESS. I have never seen stone fences in Canada, like those we saw in Ireland. But here they are. They appear to have cedar placed on top of the fences. I imagine that these fences were built when my ancestors first built the homestead, and then started using cedar when they discovered how plentiful it was.
Me sitting on one of these combo stone/cedar fences.
Fred, Maureen and Mike with another barn behind them
Another stone/cedar combo fence
A cedar fence on the property
These pictures were taken as we were leaving and were down at the bottom of Maloney Mountain Rd.
I still have not been able to trace back my roots to Ireland. But I did find a distant cousin, Michael Maloney (descendant of Patrick Maloney: my gg-grandfather John Maloney's brother). He has been in touch with the Clare Heritage Centre, to do some research with the objective of finding the parents of John, Patrick and Michael.
So maybe we will eventually figure out the rest of our story, and who my ggg-grandparents were. God willing.
Tuesday, June 25, 2013
Our Journey to Ireland: The series
Tuesday, July 2, 2013 Our trip to Ireland (fences)
Thursday, June 27, 2013 Our trip to Ireland (Church Of The Immaculate Conception in Lahinch)
Tuesday, June 25, 2013, Our trip to Ireland (looking for John Maloney, born Ennis 1819)
Sunday, June 23, 2013, Our trip to Ireland (meeting artist Michael Hanrahan)
Thursday, June 20, 2013, Our trip to Ireland (Music - the old and the new)
Wednesday, June 19, 2013, Our trip to Ireland (An Gorta Mór)
Tuesday, June 18, 2013, Our trip to Ireland (Ennistymon)
Thursday, June 13, 2013, Our Trip to Ireland (Cliffs of Moher, Doolin, The Burren etc.)
Monday, June 10, 2013, Our journey to Ireland (the Gathering and Fleadh Nua)
Friday, June 7, 2013, Our journey to Ireland
Thursday, June 27, 2013 Our trip to Ireland (Church Of The Immaculate Conception in Lahinch)
Tuesday, June 25, 2013, Our trip to Ireland (looking for John Maloney, born Ennis 1819)
Sunday, June 23, 2013, Our trip to Ireland (meeting artist Michael Hanrahan)
Thursday, June 20, 2013, Our trip to Ireland (Music - the old and the new)
Wednesday, June 19, 2013, Our trip to Ireland (An Gorta Mór)
Tuesday, June 18, 2013, Our trip to Ireland (Ennistymon)
Thursday, June 13, 2013, Our Trip to Ireland (Cliffs of Moher, Doolin, The Burren etc.)
Monday, June 10, 2013, Our journey to Ireland (the Gathering and Fleadh Nua)
Friday, June 7, 2013, Our journey to Ireland
Our trip to Ireland (looking for John Maloney, born Ennis 1819)
One of the reasons we went to Ireland in general, and County Clare in particular, was the faint hope I had of tracking down my great great grandfather John Maloney.
Maybe there is someone out there in Internet land, who could point me in a direction to find something out further about my family. One problem in discovering our roots back to Ireland is the numerous spellings of our name:
Mallowney
On our second trip into Ennis, we returned to the Clare County Library where genealogical records are kept. The first time it was closed which is why we returned.
I asked the librarian if they had any birth or baptismal records from 1819 when John was born. I knew that John was born in Ennis. I was told that there are really no records from before the 1840's, unless the person was part of the gentry or the clergy. I'm pretty certain that John didn't fall into either of those categories. I was apparently out of luck. The librarian suggested I contact the genealogist on staff there in case he had any further suggestions in tracking him down. Once I returned home I did email him a couple of times, but have received no reply as of yet.
Maybe there is someone out there in Internet land, who could point me in a direction to find something out further about my family. One problem in discovering our roots back to Ireland is the numerous spellings of our name:
Mallowney
Mullowney
Mullowny
Mollony
Moloney
And possibly other spellings as well. No wonder I can't find any relatives.
What we do know is the following:
Then I found this information:
Molony
and the Gaelic: O Maoldhomhnaigh
And possibly other spellings as well. No wonder I can't find any relatives.
What we do know is the following:
- John Maloney was born in 1819 in Ennis County Clare (married to Deborah Moriarty, daughter of Daniel Moriarty and Julia Brennan, 1826, County Limerick)
- Michael Maloney was born in 1816 (Probably born in Ennis as well, Married to Mary Dundin (1819-1873))
- Patrick Maloney was born in 1820 (Probably born in Ennis as well, Married to Catherine O'Brien)
We believe that five brothers came over initially but we only know for certain, the names of these three brothers.
Then I found this information:
"Biddy, Edmund, George, James, John Michael and Patrick Molony all arrived in Canada in 1847."
Is that our Maloney's? This sounded intriguing so I contacted the site to find out how they discovered this information.
These are all the other places I have contacted as well. Will anything turn up? If there are no records for the early 1800's, as seems to be the case so far, probably not. Will keep you posted.
Is that our Maloney's? This sounded intriguing so I contacted the site to find out how they discovered this information.
These are all the other places I have contacted as well. Will anything turn up? If there are no records for the early 1800's, as seems to be the case so far, probably not. Will keep you posted.
Friday, June 7, 2013
Our journey to Ireland
We recently returned from a month long trip to Ireland. I had been there in 2004 on a bus tour with my sister and her husband--of Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales. The 2004 trip was great, but I knew I needed to return and spend more time in Ireland itself, the country where my ancestors come from. And I wanted Fred to come too.
Neither of us are world travellers, and in fact don't really like travelling that much. We decided we wanted to settle down in one place, and preferably not drive while there--you know the wrong side of the road and all that? So wherever we chose to go to, it had to have all amenities within walking distance of where we stayed. I also wanted to have the choice to be able to cook, and not have to eat out all the time. It also had to be in County Clare where my great-great-grandfather John Maloney was born. I was hoping to find out more about John who was born in Ennis, County Clare.
I started searching for a place to stay, and we ended up deciding on the small village of Lahinch on the West Coast of Ireland. Lahinch is a lovely place known for its surfing, it's beach and its (apparently) fantastic golf course. A lot of Irish families have summer homes there. We were not disappointed with our choice.
We rented a beautiful home from a lovely family. We were about a 10 minute walk from numerous pubs, restaurants, and a small grocery store where we were able to buy all the food we needed. And a fantastic gift shop.
It rained a fair amount, but it never rained for the entire day. It is also very windy in Lahinch, much windier than we are used to. It was apparently cooler than normal for the time of year, with temperatures ranging from about 8 decrees Celsius to about 13 degrees. The weather did not deter us though. We brought our raincoats which we used almost every day, and umbrellas that we never used because of the wind. If we had used the umbrellas, we would have done a Mary Poppins across the bay.
I think this vacation was the best we have ever had. I knew as our time there unfolded that I would have to write about it upon our return. Nothing out of the ordinary happened there really. Other than enjoying every minute; talking to many lovely people and trying to understand what they were saying with that Irish accent that makes one want to weep it's so beautiful; seeing some of the most gorgeous countryside in the world; eating great food; listening to awesome traditional Irish music and singing; watching the set dancing in the barn in Kilfenora; meeting an Irish artist; attending a Gathering concert in Ennis; drinking the best beer in the world; eating lots of potatoes and scones--yum; seeing so many stone fences and sheep that I managed to take nearly 1,500 pictures of it all; visiting all the churches in every town we went to, some of which date back to the 12th century; and knowing when I left that I wanted to return again with my sisters in tow. That's all. Nothing too special really.
I hope to write more about the trip in the coming weeks. A trip that was truly, a gift from God.
Notice the different spellings of Lahinch: Lehinch and An Leacht, its Irish name. Most, if not all signs provide the Irish names as well.
This was probably a house at one point but appeared to be converted to a barn
Cows taking shelter behind a stone fence from some pretty ferocious winds. We couldn't see the cows until we made it to that side of the fence. This was taken up on the School Road overlooking the village and bay.
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